Bible teaches charity – not dependence on government

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The New York Times reported: “Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, ‘Who Really Cares,’ cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals.”

A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: Average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

If we look at history and facts, we will see that not only are conservatives more charitable, but they have worked harder to lift up the vulnerable in our society than those who promote big government.

Sometimes biblical teachings get lost in an ideological shuffle just as statistics get lost in our agendas.

I want to share some truths with you from the Bible concerning the poor and sharing with them.

Luke 3:10-14 – “And the crowds asked him, ‘What then shall we do?’ And he answered them, ‘Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.

‘But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.’ ”

Mark 14:7 – “For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them.”

1 Thessalonians 4:10-12 – “To aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may live properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one.”

Ephesians 4:23 – “Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.”

1 Timothy 5:8 – “But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”

I have seen no evidence of Jesus or his apostles handing over the responsibility of helping the poor to government. It is expected of individuals who have the means.

We all know why some of our politicians want to continue the taxpayer scams under the disguise of helping the poor; it is to buy votes, not to lift the poor out of poverty but rather to keep them dependent on a government promoting tyrannical policies.

What would Jesus do? He would be charitable!

What He did not do was call on the Roman government to aid the poor.

As the saying goes, “Give a man a fish and he eats for a day; teach a man to fish and he can feed himself for life.”

Julia Manning

Spring Hope

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louis

"Criticize and complain" would you prefer I accept the condition poverty thrives in, turning out humans to be killers of the innocent, half baked excuses to do as little as possible when some have the means to do so much more, look the other way and pretend that it's not as bad as some say or would you be willing to tell Eve Carlsons' loved ones "I should not criticize and complain" or the loved ones of the many children killed playing in their front yards as the church (black and white) pray and march for what? You tell me what I should do being you know where I come from and how my childhood was like. I'm not telling "others" what they should do or not do but telling "others" what they're doing is not enough and believe it or not I'm concern about them too, don't want them to stand before God in that last day and be told to "Depart from me ye that work iniquity" (St. Matthew 7:21-23) "Vague, general terms, plight of the poor" You want details of the "plight" suffering of children living in poverty but you say I "resort to personal attacks" the truth is what it is the problem is that some don't and refuse to accept the truth, I don't think and I think others will agree that no one will "personally attack" some one and then post their name and phone number. Your option of me being a fraud is based on information you don't have so it would at best be immature. SUMMARY: Obtain ownership of ragged boarded up properties in the "hood the ghetto, hire the skum, the thug, the xcon, the ho, the crack head, the homeless, the bum, the lazy, the out cast, the unwanted, the uneducated, the unskilled, the unemployable, the dumb, the crazy, the lame" and whothesoever get the point!!!! We provide the tools and show them how to use the tools to rebuild their own lives and their own communities..... Now louis what are you and all those you claim that want to help the poor going to do to help them help them selves? I'm only the messenger and if you think this is about "helping the poor" you missed the massage, the poor and how you treat them is only a means to your end or where you spend it. The funny thing is that the labeles put on the above people are easy to talk too, and work with but people as you are so hard to talk too and work with why is that, is it because you have so much and they have so little to nothing? Johnny Cunningham 252-266-3858

Just as I figured....

you aren't doing squat, except criticize and complain.

louis

How do you like your crow?

louis

Thank you for your comments, but do tell what you're doing for poor black people?

Very Good Letter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julia, as usual you have written and exceptional letter that is right on point!!!

Lasko, where in the Bible or in any of Ms. Manning letter does it say that the government should be responsible for caring for the needy and the poor, NOWHERE… If you doubt it at the end I have provided you a link to use in your research to find a biblical quote requiring transfer of the people’s wealth to the government for the government to take care of the needy and the poor!!!

The Bible provides many examples of what an individual should do to care for the needy and poor. As you can see below, Mr. Lasko, your own reference provides an example. Nowhere is dependence on the government taught in biblical theology. What is taught in the Bible is self-reliance and charity there are no references to dependence!!!

In a capitalistic economy as defined by a number of different economists there is no place for a “redistribution of wealth” as required to care for the poor by a government entity. Capitalist economies operate on self-reliance where individuals are responsible for their own food, clothing, housing, and yes health care!!!

Only economists who supports communism or its derivative socialism place the responsibility for care for the needy and poor on the government using the “redistribution of wealth” method. Communism and socialism both have the effect of teaching people that they are not responsible for their own food, clothing, housing, and health care!!! Communism and socialism develops into economies where individuals are no longer willing to earn the wages required for them to sustain life but are totally dependent on the government for life sustaining support!!!!

If you are truly a good Christian you would be supporting a government where there are NO entitlement programs!!! Good Christian would support a government based on “self-reliance.”

Luke 10:23-37 -

23 Then he turned to his disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes that see what you see. 24 For I tell you that many prophets and kings wanted to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.”

The Parable of the Good Samaritan

25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” 27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” 29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” 30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’ 36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” 37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

Here is a link you can use for research purposes: https://www.biblegateway.com/

Johnny, Johnny

#1. I only read the KJV and lean upon God to give me the understanding. (Proverbs 3:5-8) #2. I don't refer to "The Parable of the good Samaritan" as titled but rather "The obedient servant." A form of goodness, (as you mention referring to me as a wolf in sheep clothing) is not what the parable teaches, as one should see in the choices of examples used, the man robbed, beaten and left for dead represent the poor, the priest represents the church, the Levite represents the good and last but not lest the Samaritan, the stranger represents obedience to God, (Hebrews 13:1) "Jesus told him, Go and do like wise" He obeyed Jesus' command. Go and do what? What the church do for the poor pray and march? what the good do for the poor give hand outs and freebies? or what compassion commands to be done? Don't know? Well lets' just number what the Obedient Samaritan did not would do: 1. V33 Delayed his own travel plans. 2.Didn't look pass or pretend the man wasn't there. 3. Looked upon the man with compassion, love, concern, ect. and not judging. 4. V34 attended to the mans needs. 5. Picked him up. 6. sat him on his own beast. 7. Walked the man into town on his beast. 8. Rented a room. 9. Stayed with the man, took care of the man all night. V35 10.In the morning the inn keeper was paid to care for the man no matter what the cost. 11. Made promise to pay any extras for the mans care leaving him in good care. 12. Made plans to check on the man when he returned. The church today does what the priest did, the good people does what the Levite did. WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT JESUS COMMANDED TO DO? WHO'S GOING TO BE THAT SAMARITAN? We can not pick and choose how to serve the poor when Jesus has given command how to serve them. IT'S 1-12 ALL OR NOTHING TO MAKE THE POOR WHOLE. Johnny Cunningham 252-266-3858

THE TRUTH

St. Matthew 7:15-27

Off base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lasko, who are you trying to describe, yourself!!!!

This passage is very descriptive of those individuals who claim to be Christians but support a dependency philosophy. Christians who believe in the teaching of the Bible believe in self-reliance and charity not dependency!!!!

Matthew 7:15-27 - /p>

True and False Prophets 15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

True and False Disciples 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

The Wise and Foolish Builders 24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

Johnny, Johnny

Jesus said, "follow me" the problem is that some have gone in front of Jesus and when they find themselves in trouble they come to their senses that "self reliance" is nothing more than a false sense of pride. As for me my total dependency and reliance is in Jesus. Look at what the truth did to Jesus and those that did it to him so if I'm following Him should not my end be the beginning?

Twisted and distorted!!!!!!!

Lasko, you are like so many. You do not pay attention to what you read!!! You are twisting and distorting the Bible to fit what situation you wish. The Bible was written for you to take at faced value not to be twisted and distorted to meet a distorted view of religion.

I would think if you are praying to God for guidance and you are getting this distorted view then you are praying to the wrong god.

I would recommend that your take a long hard look at Matthew 7:15-27 because it is very descriptive!!!!

Pay attention to what the Bible says not what you want it to say!!! Because as you are interpreting the Bible today you are very very wrong!!!

Johnny, Johnny

"Taken at face value" where did you read that? We're commanded to be wise in how the truth is told, if you want to refer to it as "twisted and distorted" you're entitled but don't deny me that right of entitlement just because you disagree. Every thing spoken in the Bible can be applied to every day situations because there's nothing new under the sun and it's a road map that teaches one how to follow Jesus. What every or who ever you refer to God as there's only one, I remember reading where Jesus disciples come upon a group of believers that prayed to an unknown god and the disciples shared with the people who their unknown God is. Can you share that God sense you say I "pray to the wrong god?" After reading St. Matthew 7:15-27 Luke 14:12-24 should bring it home for you. As for me I will depend on the Holy Ghost to give me understanding. Luke 12:16-23 should untwist some things for you hopefully. Johnny Cunningham 252-266-3858

Mr. Cunningham, you are limited!!!.................

Based on your own writing, Mr. Cunningham, your understanding of the Bible is very limited... You have decided to limit your research of the Bible to the King James Version, a self-imposed limitation. The King James Version was translated from the original manuscripts by man at the request of man for man’s use. The translation was done at the request of King James VI/I in January 1604.

During my religious studies at a private religious university the King James Version was not the primary resource for any of the religious courses that I took. The New Oxford Annotated Bible (Revised Standard Version) was the primary resource at that time. The King James Version was taught and use as a secondary resource but never a primary resource. Most universities taught information about the King James Version because it is the Bible of the common man!!!

Mr. Cunningham, I am not sure what your point is with your last response. You are mixing the Parable of False Prophets with one’s responsibility to care for the poor and needy. Are you telling us that you are a False Prophet that is not doing his share for the care of the poor and needy??? Do you support the transfer of your responsibilities to the government which is contrary to Jesus’ acts and teachings???

Yes, it is the individual’s responsibility to care for the poor and needy. It is not a governmental responsibility that requires the extraction of excessive taxes in order for the government to assume the responsibility of the individual and the community!!!

Mr. Cunningham, I recommend that you take a few religious courses at our local religious college to improve your understanding of the Bible!!! By taking the courses you could further develop your appreciation for the Bible and its teachings.

You and I do agree on one point the Bible has the answer for all the problems that one will confront in today’s society. BUT you must take the Bible literally to be able to apply it to today’s society for the solution of your own problems and the problems of others and society!!!

Finally when it comes to self-reliance; self-reliance has nothing to do with “PRIDE.” Self-reliance has to do with one’s ability to perform the responsibilities of feeding, clothing, housing, and caring for one’s self and his/her family. The Bible is full of requirements to be self-reliance. Nowhere in any Version of the Bible will you find a requirement to be dependent on your fellow man for your existence. There is nowhere in the Bible that allows a government to extract excessive taxes in order to assume the individual and community responsibility of caring for the poor and needy, that would be anti-Christian and against the acts and teachings of Jesus!!!

Remember what you are today is the results of the decisions that you have made during your lifetime!!! You are only a victim of your own self-imposed decisions or limitations!!!

Johnny Johnny

"Your own writing, your understanding, you have decided, a self imposed limitation." Proverbs 3:5-7 Again I'm totally dependent on the Holy Ghost. Philippians 4:5-13, Luke 24:45, Luke 12:2-12 "Translated from the original manuscripts by man at the request of man for man's use." 2Timothy 3:1-17 (V13-16). "During my religious studies at a private religious university..." 2 Timothy 3:7. "...False Prophets.." Your reference to me in a post as you regularly label others in other post, only you know why. "...Responsibilities to the government...?" Mark 12:1-17. ".... all the problems that one will confront in today's society." What one "confront" today are not "problems" but promises and prophecy coming to pass. I'm not going to "suggest" you do any thing because you're not a child but I find the book of 1John very helpful and true and gives a clear understanding and answer to those who don't understand that "self-reliance" is puffed up pride and prevents one from becoming the person God command and has made ways for them to become. Finally my option of you Mr.Yuma, 2Timothy 3:7, Matthew 23:1-39, 1Corinthians 1:17-31, 2:1-16 Read at your own risk. Johnny Cunningham 252-266-3858

NOT

Not "What (would) Jesus do? But what (did) Jesus do?

Julia, Julia

So true but the thing that prevents the church from obeying the truth is they don't have what the certain Samaritan had, "compassion" they have a form of but that form will not allow them to serve as did the Samaritan. St. Luke 10:25-37 (V 24 For you Julia) This is the example of how to serve the poor. "Make them whole."

I have followed your posts for some time now...

Lasko wrote:
So true but the thing that prevents the church from obeying the truth is they don't have what the certain Samaritan had, "compassion" they have a form of but that form will not allow them to serve as did the Samaritan. St. Luke 10:25-37 (V 24 For you Julia) This is the example of how to serve the poor. "Make them whole."
and I find that all you do is criticize and complain, often resorting to personal attacks. You speak in vague or overly general terms about the "plight" of the poor and in even more vague and overly general terms about what OTHER FOLKS SHOULD DO to overcome that "plight." You never get specific as regards what should be done and you never give the rest of us any specifics as to what YOU are doing to combat that problem. I'm beginning to think you are a fraud.

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