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Downtown project wins rural grant
Rocky Mount Telegram
Monday, January 25, 2010

Rocky Mount City Council agreed Monday to administer a state economic development grant intended to create more than 20 jobs at a former downtown landmark.

The $250,000 N.C. Rural Economic Development Center grant will go toward the renovation of the former Carleton House motel and restaurant into the new Four Seasons Restaurant and Conference Center.

Business partners Mildred Walker, Toney Vaughan and Kochie Richardson purchased the building from N.C. Wesleyan College in December with plans of renovating the property at 215 N. Church St. and opening an upscale restaurant and conference center.

The $250,000 incentive requires a 100 percent match from the business owners and $8,200 of in-kind services from the city to administer the grant. If the owners fail to hit and maintain their stated job creation target of 21 full-time positions for at least six months, the grant contract stipulates that a percentage of the money will have to be repaid.

The Carleton House renovation project is expected to cost about $1 million in total, according to plans Walker, Vaughan and Richardson submitted to the city. The owners said they want to open a new restaurant, lounge, banquet hall and hotel.

Walker, the owner of a salon and catering business in Raleigh, supplied the funding for the business venture through Trinity Investment Group.

Vaughan had operated the Four Seasons Restaurant & Catering, which was located in the Gold Rock community for 10 years, and most recently, in the Battleboro community. The restaurant closed two and-a-half years ago, but the catering business has continued.

“The current plans include restoring the former Carleton House Restaurant with a menu sure to please even the most seasoned connoisseur,” he said after the purchase was finalized in December. “(We’re) promising to serve entrees appealing to all lifestyles, including business colleagues, romantic dinner companions, Saturday family breakfasts and the Sunday brunch crowd.”

Vaughan said the banquet and meeting facilities will hold weddings, anniversaries, family reunions and business meetings.

The Rural Center had designated funding for the redevelopment of the Carleton House two years ago when former basketball star Phil Ford was working to renovate the restaurant.

Ford dropped the project in July 2008 after he was unable to secure a loan for the downtown revitalization project through the downtown Rocky Mount Loan Pool.

N.C. Wesleyan College used the Carleton House facility as dorm space for two years after the restaurant and hotel closed in February 2003 following more than 40 years of business.

The city council also agreed during its meeting to close part of Main Street from East Thomas to Goldleaf streets Wednesday for a ceremony to be held at 1 p.m. celebrating the Douglas Block redevelopment project. Work began on the project last week.

Comments

Rural Grant

Mr. Shamlin should study his American history a little. He might find that Washington DC, New York (New Amsterdam), Philadelphia, and Savannah Georgia were all started with public funds. Regarding the restaurant, despite the image of being poor and black (and there is no shame in either) the area around downtown needs a decent sit down restaurant and there are those living in the area (both black and white) who can and will pay to eat there. Old time notions about who can afford what is part of the reason downtown has had such a decline. Old fashioned reconstructionist thinking holds us all back. The Hardee's on Fairview at Grand is the highest grossing Hardee's in both counties. The Oakwood shopping center never has a vacancy because the poeple who live in the area spend money. Time to wake up and smell the coffee - it's about to start brewing on the Edgecombe side of town :)

I stand corrected

To whomever you are: I stand corrected. I forgot about Washington, DC. New York ( A Fur Trading Village), Savannah (an Indian Trading Village), and Philadelphia (a Fur Trading and Port) all these cities started as a commerical ventures and grew from there. I have no idea as to the racial status of the new owners of Carlton House and my comments are based on that fact. You must remember the Carlton House restaurant closed many years ago from what; I suspect that it was because of lack of business. As I stated before I wish them every success. I just wish they would do it without taxpayer dollars. Having been involved with a number of contract negotiations; I am not gullible or naïve enough to believe that the rural grant obtained was not part of the purchase agreement. Part of the purchasing cost of any business is the original contract price and all the costs required to make the business a going concern or in this case serve its first meal, so in that vain the rural grant is part of the purchase.

No Credibility...

Mr. Shamlin has no credibility for reading and understanding what is written in these articles. For that matter he doesn't understand what is written in the posts here either. He already has his preconceived notions as to what he reads anyway, so I wouldn't put any weight behind what he has to say. I refer you to my last post to him here. http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/citydesk/sampling-responses-oak-level-...

Response

1.) Only the gullible and naïve will accept Truther’s ranting as anything other that what they are: “gibberish ranting of an irrational and irresponsible individual.” 2.) I would guess that I hit close to home because Truther is now ranting and wailing like a banshee. 3.) The great writers of the world who used pseudonyms made no attempt to pass their writing off as anything other than fiction. I would guess that Truther’s wants her writings to be considered as fiction also because Truther is a pseudonym for someone to hide behind. 4.) I disassociated myself from OLCAFA because of the lying and deceit that was going on from and between members of what is now considered the organization’s central committee. 5.) My character has been attested to and is a matter of record at the NC State Board CPA Examiners. You are welcome to request copies via the Freedom of Information Act. See the following link lower right hand corner page 5: http://www.nccpaboard.gov/Clients/NCBOA/Public/Static/06-2004.pdf

Get Your Facts Straight...

Mr. Shamlin, you had no choice in disassociating yourself from OLCAFA, you were voted off the committee. This one fact alone discredits anything else you have to say here. I challenge you to disprove anything I write here with cold hard facts, not with your personal opinions. Does the fact that I choose to stay anonymous here really get to you that much? If so, I guess I'll keep it that way just to get under your skin. Okay, let me see if I have this right, by saying that I use a pseudonym to hide behind, and in your opinion that make me an irrational and irresponsible individual, and the great writers of the world also use them, that makes them irrational and irresponsible individuals? Now, apparently you think you know who I am, since you referred to me as "her", well wrong again Mr. Shamlin, I'm a man. You think I'm a woman? Really? And you use this level of attack? I can't wait to see what you have to say now that you know I'm a man. As for your character, I think that speaks for itself.

My facts are straight

1.) Being voted off the OLCAFA central committee; that is news to me. What Date was I voted off?? The last I knew I submitted a resignation disassociation myself. 2.) Unlike you, the great writer who used pseudonyms did not try to pass their writing off as factual; they claimed their writing as what they were pure fiction. 3.) As I stated before I have no idea who you are. I used the term “her” because the last I knew the majority of the OLCAFA central committee was female. 4.) The fact that you are a male makes no different to me or the statements that I have made or will continue to make. They still apply. Even more so now that you are partially outing yourself. It is clear that you are unwilling to accept responsibility or accountability for your actions and comments is the reason that you hide behind a pseudonym. 5.) I will say that for an individual who claims to be stating the truth you sure enjoy being secretive about your identity. Truthful individuals usually want to claim their comments while untruthful individuals try and hide from them as you are doing. 6.) As to your identity getting under my skin it really doesn’t. It makes your attacks on me and others just what they are; “gibberish ranting” of an irrational individual. 7.) I only respond with the hopes that through our discourse you will become an honorable individual and accept responsibility for your actions and comments rather than comment only from a vial of secrecy. 8.) I hope your work in the Democratic Party is still rewarding.

Date?

The same date as the other saboteurs were voted out. Of course you weren't there, why would you have been? Mr. Shamlin, apparently you have decided not to take me up on my challenge to disprove anything I've written here. I'll even take that one step further, show me specifically where I have acted irrationally, irresponsibly or dishonorably. It's hard to disprove the truth, but I'm sure if you try hard enough you can figure out a way to distort the truth into whatever you want it to be. Have you even read anything I've written here? If you had, it would be obvious to you I'm not associated with any political party, although I'm sure you will not believe that either since you already have your preconceived notions about me. But that's fine, think what you will of me, it makes no difference, I am secure in whom I am and what I believe. As for taking credit for telling the truth, unlike you, I don't need anyone to pat me on the back to confirm what I write, I already know what is the truth.

No date, no proof and request for documentation !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see you can not give a date, okay. I do not have to disprove anything you have said. You are the one that is making all the assertions about truth while hiding behind vial secrecy. It is up to you to document your assertions!! I don’t have to prove opinions because that is what they are opinions and as usual my opinions are well informed opinions. You act irrational, irresponsible, and dishonorable when you will not take credit for your comments and actions. Mr. Truther, if we keep at this long enough you will prove; you are exactly what I all ready know you are. The political party comment was a red herring. You already have my email address. My phone number and mail address are in the phone book. I request you send notarized copies of documentation to prove everything you have said to either address.

Have a Nice Life....

You are correct, I can't give you a specific date for the simple reason I wasn't there either. I was told this by a very reliable source. I will not go through the trouble to find out a date for you, because to me this is getting tiresome and going around in circles. I'm not a part of OLCAFA because I don't live in the Oak Level community. I support them because I have family members and many friends there, and because it's just the right thing to do. But rest assure, I am up on all of which is going on with the organization. Also, I know people have their own opinions and are entitled to them. As for your opinions being well informed, well that's a matter of opinion, too. You wrote: "You act irrational, irresponsible, and dishonorable when you will not take credit for your comments and actions", this is an idiotic statement. I don't feel the need, as you do, to be front and center with the attitude of "look at me", that's a bit narcissistic don't you think? As for what you think I am, so far you are the only one here, other than Mr. Dancy, that has this opinion of me and that's not the kind of company I would choose to keep. Now, as for my political party affiliation, as I have stated before, I have none. I vote according to what the candidates stand for. I don't vote "the party line", as you have made it clear to me that is what you do. In my opinion, there isn't any difference between the two, so why would I associate myself with either? The last statement you made is absolutely hilarious to me. You want "notarized copies of documentation"? Are you serious? Mr. Shamlin, I have much better things to do than to waste my time on you any further with this back and forth bantering. I stand by any of the comments I've made here and certainly do not have to prove anything to you. So, just like I've done with Mr. Dancy, I will bid you farewell and will not keep up this ridiculous commentary. Have a nice life Mr. Shamlin.

God go with you

I see the truth finally comes forth. Being up-front as you say is what honest people do. They do not do it for any claim to fame as you would have folks believe. They do it because they are being a responsible human being. Whomever your contact is within the “central committee” has feed you some bad information. I still support the goals of the organization but from a distance. Since you are unwilling to document your assertions I guess we just have to take them as fiction and untrue. I wish you the best in the future. May God Bless you and you have a marvelous and wonderful day.

"No Credibility" at all

He's an old angry racist fool.

Downtown v Rural

What has a "downtown" project got to do with anything titled "rural"? Life is confusing enough without reading headlines in the Telegram.

Simply put

As we all know, down town is a ghost town it's as rural as rural gets, it's where 90% of the citizens who live in Rocky Mount have been taught to think that's were all the crime come from and where all the poor blacks live. It meets the guide lines to be labeled rural. It's all by design.

A recipe for failure

Well the truth is finally out. The purchasers of the Carlton House did not purchase it without help. They must have the incentive of taxpayer money to complete their purchase. It appears that this may be cronyism at its finest. You have a group whose restaurant closed in Battleboro. They plan to make a go of a restaurant in a part of Rocky Mount that few wish to visit let alone go to for a fine dining. I don’t think it will succeed or survive but that is just the skeptic in me. I wish them every success but they need to do it without taxpayer money. There is no city that was founded in this country with taxpayer dollars first. Cities are first formed with private investment then followed by public investment, to try and do it in reverse is a recipe for failure.

wHAT WE NEED

This is what we need in order to bring down town to life, black peopel steping up and just doing what they have to do, the city had to worm their way into this purchase because the investors did not need their money or them, did'nt have to ask no body for their permission. !!!!!! BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!! Get use to it more to come. DOWN TOWN ROCKY MOUNT WILL LIVE AGAIN....

YOU MADDDDDD

Mr. Ray Shamin you mad because these black men got the power and the money to do what they are doing and did'nt have to ask you for not a dime. GET USE TO IT!!!!!! You will see more. FYI 1MILLION + 250.000 + 8.200 = 1.258.200.00 THAT'S TO RENOVATE!!!!! DIP STICK. How much money do you have?

Read before you open your trap

There you go again running your p hole not reading the facts. The grant is for renovation not purchase. Mr. know it all.

More Government Money?

Just curious, what is RURAL about downtown Rocky Mount? Should money for rural areas be spent on rural areas? The center was founded to advance rural areas that were suffering while urban areas prospered. Telegram, I wonder if you could research this and provide understanding.

What's Rural

last time I looked Rocky Mount was surrounded by rural land unless the city moved to Brooklyn over night

who cares

The piont is down town is coming up who cares where the money come from all money is dirty.
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