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Obama video on speaking Spanish goes viral
A video of Sen. Barack Obama asking Americans to teach their children to speak Spanish is the fourth most watched video on YouTube.
As of Thursday, it had more than 206,000 hits.
Obama made the remarks Tuesday at an appearance in Powder Springs, Ga. They got little attention at the time, but the CNN video of the event was featured on several conservative Web sites including drudgereport.com and redstate.com.
Obama also says in the video that he understands that immigrants must learn English.
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By janet
July 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
I never ceased to be amazed at how resistant the people of Georgia are to improving their ability to communicate with other human beings. Language is one of the characteristics that differentiates us from the other species on the planet. In most industrialized countries, a second and third language is mandatory in the schools. Even in E.Africa, children (in village schools) are taught in English and Swahili…without books! I would really like to see the students of Georgia schools learn correct English while they are learning. The verb “to be” can be conjugated but you wouldn’t know it here…just travel 1 hr out of Metro Atlanta and you are in a vast abyss of culture and understanding of anything but BBQ, pickup trucks and tanning salons. And the Super Walmart is the major event for all the 16 yr old unwed pregnant girls to visit while they wait for their welfare checks. If they had learned English, Spanish, French they would have learned NO is the same in all of them.
By SES
July 11, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
I think that they are too many people in this country already that CANNOT SPEAK ENGLISH to have us worry whether or not our children can speak Spanish. I personally have taken 7 levels of Spanish not because I was forced but because I wanted to. I was born in this country and I believe that anyone who lives in this country should speak ENGLISH. So what if you can’t speak another language. Do all French, Asian, Mexican, African, Chinese, Japanese, etc. people speak English No they don’t.
OBAMA iS RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!
By SaveOurRepublic
July 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
“T”, although the economy is (too) globalized, the North American Union (NAU) directly infringes on U.S. sovereignty & borders. Once it was uncovered (as they’d initially tried stealth), the Neocons said the NAU was only for defense & commerce. However, if you look further into the NAU, it’s clearly about integrating the U.S., Canada & Mexico (ala the EU). In addition, they plan a common currency (the “Amero”) to replace the (conveniently falling) U.S. dollar. Former Mexican Presidente Fox openly admitted this on Larry King Live last October (video available on YouTube). This push for learning Spanish is a precursor the the forthcoming NAU, which was spawned from NAFTA (which has devastated the U.S. manufacturing base & cost thousands of American jobs).
By Christian
July 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
I can’t even find the words to express the ignorance of people who are drinking this guy’s kool-aid. Wake up. He is selling you a dream…nothing but words. Words, words, words. That’s it. What has this guy ever done other than secure financing for community groups? Wow, what a resume!!! He gets basketballs for inner-city kids!!! He should be President!!! Obakarama Fools!!!
By WestSider
July 11, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
“It behooves everyone dealing with the public to speak enough Spanish to conduct business. Sorry guys!”
— What business would that be?
What do you think would have happened if someone suggested that Spanish-speaking Mexican immigrant children should learn English (as a lot of people have)? Why of course they would have been branded a racist.
By rerservoirDAWG
July 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Hey Janet, why don’t you move. Maybe communist China?
By Lee
July 11, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
So, did Obama show his ability to speak Spanish? Once again, someone wants other people to do something he won’t do. It would have been so much more impressive if he had given this statement in Spanish. Also, it is un-American to discriminate between immigrant groups- no one group should have preference over another. Thus, we should be encouraged to speak all the languages in the hemisphere- Dutch, German, French, Spanish, Portugese, Creole and German. Not to mention outside our hemisphere languages, such as Arabic or Chinese. It is pandering to a larger group, rahter than to all immigrant groups, to suggest only one language.
By jessica
July 11, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
I do not know why the AJC would make this a blog and allow comments knowing the one sided views many of our commenters have.
By Clear Thinker
July 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Right on reservoirDAWG!
Question for Janet: What is the per capita income in E. Africa?
Do you consider countries in E. Africa worthy of emulation in terms of:
Living standards? Productivity? GDP? Charitable contributions? Scientific achievement? Medical discoveries? Social progress?
Should we learn Swahili so we can be like them? If other cultures wear bones in their noses, should we take one of the bones from the barbeques you mentioned “we all have” and put it through our nose?
Do you realize that English is the official language used in air traffic control? The deciders of such things considered Swahili—in fact they almost went for it—but then realized that since there is a dearth of airports in E. Africa—Swahili just might not be the best choice.
Janet, don’t you have a protest to attend?
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Well thanks to Affirmative Action, the English speaking caucasian male will have an EVEN MORE difficult time landing a job for which he is qualified.
By TheWormTurns
July 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
change-no we can’t :
Your broke @$$ won’t go anywhere… get back to work… taking breakfast orders !
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Can’t we all just get along?
By T
July 11, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
SaveOurRepublic
I can get that. I’ll have to do some more reading. Having to depend on the Canadian or Mexican army would be scary. (It was embarassing enough when they had to help us in the Katrina mess.)
The NAFTA thing worked for that short moment. Worked to globalize the economy, now its killing it. What C#%^!
The single monetary system is something that a lot of politians have been pushing. W even said, and it is evident that when the dollar slides it makes it less expensive for other countries to buy into America and push the prices up for American consumers. This NAU thing might be a shamefull way of them to try to combat the domination of the Euro. Who knows?
English should always be the national language. No one is arguing that. Our tax dollars go to teaching illeagals children to be bilingual and even multilingual. Why should we not offer natural born American citizens the same? I don’t get it. The old way that we have been doing things is not working. Why is it so wrong and left for society to speak more than one language.
By Jodi
July 11, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Does Obama’s kids speak spanish??? I’m just sayin….
By Barack O-bore-me
July 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Children should be encouraged to learn the language that they want to learn. Spanish shouldn’t take precedence over any other language. The children of Hispanic parents learn and speak Spanish because it is part of their heritage. Why should those of us who are not Hispanic submit ourselves to their heritage? How about learning a language that has something to do with your family’s own heritage - German, Italian, Polish, Dutch, Indian, Chinese, etc. If they want to learn Spanish also, that’s fine, but it shouldn’t be forced on anyone. Auf Wiedersehen.
By John
July 11, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
If, as he stated ‘we don’t have to worry about them learning English’ is correct then: we wouldn’t have to press 1 for English, there wouldn’t be sings in Spanish and English in Lowes or Home Depot and I wouldn’t have to ask if you speak English when I go on a construction site. English is the world wide language of business. Other countries have a national language, we need to have some resolve and do the same. Yes, learn a 2nd language it’s a smart thing to do, but for people (who are possibly in this country illegally) quit short cutting the system, mooching off our social infrastructure and learn the language if you’re legal. Employeers, do a good job of screening and do not hire illegals. I always ask for legals when I do construction. Obama’s elitism and cure all solutions are good for speeches, but would be a disaster for the country. Having said that, the masses are drinking the kool aid and he’ll probably win, flip flops and all. Turn the lights out when you leave please.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Well I am sure they do, I mean why would he come out saying children should be taught to speak Spanish if his children weren’t taught. That would make him look like he doesn’t practice what he preaches.
(written with lots of sarcastic undertones)
By GetReal
July 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
A huge number of our children can’t speak English. AFTER English is mastered, THEN, in my opinion, a 2nd language would be educational, and appropriate, to learn.
By T
July 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
GetReal
Well, who’s going to teach their parents to speak english?
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
T brings up a valid point.
Sounds like the “blind” leading the “blind”.
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
I actually watched the vid (how many commenting actually did??) and what I got from it was he was telling to learn a 2nd language PERIOD! Maybe he singled Spanish out because they’re the fastest growning minority in the country, MOST Americans who travel abroad go to Mexico (Punta Cana, Cabo, etc.), but maybe… just maybe, he wants us to think OUTSIDE of the FRIGGIN’ box and EXPAND our HORIZONS. Why all the resistance to learn something?? It’s a friggin’ suggestion people - not a law, not a requirement, and it’s not in the constitution. Don’t want to learn Spanish? Fine. French? No. Mandarin? Who the %$#@ cares! Just NEVER STOP LEARNING!! Get off of your flippin’ recliners and open a flippin’ book. Do you know how some of you sound?! “Well, if he says learn Spanish, then the Mexicans are going to take over America!” Bull$#@$. Face it, some of you are backwards redneck yahoos and ghetto welfare check receivers who probably protested new math and ITBS testing too. Georgia, Alabama, & Mississippi are the armpit of America anyway.
Live from Seattle, Mike
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
To all the people saying our children should learn to speak a language in addition to english and that in other countries the citizens are bilingual, understand people are not trying to get OUT of America. So, whoever comes to America and wants to get in on what we have going on over here, by all means, come here the legal way but note that you need to speak English when you do so, or put yourself on the right track to learn it.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Yes, I watched the video. and you know what I heard…someone who has a hard time speaking english himself….
By Barack O-bore-me
July 11, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Hey, Live From Seattle: if the “armpit” is down here in the southeast, I guess “the sphincter” is somewhere up there where you reside, huh?
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Dawg — of course that’s what you heard. That’s what you wanted to hear. I get it… how dare he suggest that American students are lacking in LANGUAGE ARTS. It’s just the fact he said the word SPANISH that’s got your panties in a twist, right? You Southerners make me (and the rest of America) laugh so.
By Trunk Monkey
July 11, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
it’s funny…my work provided ESL training for (legal) immigrant workers but DOESN’T make any provision for teaching their American-born workers a new language. That’s not unusual, though.
Heck, American television programs can be ‘closed captioned’ in Mexican but oddly enough, not one single Univision or Telemundo program can be ‘captioned’ in English.
It’s a double standard. We Americans are constantly scolded to open our minds, hearts, and borders to the entire world and quit being so proud on being Americans. Frankly, I wouldn’t mind learning a second language, be it Mexican or French or Arabic, simply for personal enrichment. It’s something I never had an opportunity to persue, as my highschool had no foreign language classes. I could possibly take adult ed courses, but who has time…or money? Because unfortunately, American citizens are expected to pay for this themselves (as opposed to tax-funded ESL programs) and frankly, I’m too strapped to spend hundreds of dollars on it.
If Obama wants to pay me to go, plus the cost of the classes, well…fine. But as the saying goes, put up or shut up. Until his agenda includes as much funding for free “Spanish as a Second Language” classes as he puts up for the “English for Illegals” programs, he should just keep his mouth shut.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Mike,
It’s more like a thong and no, it isn’t in a twist.
Anyway, I think everyone here knows that America is not the brightest bulb in the tanning bed; however, it still is the greatest and most diverse nation on the face of this Earth. That being said, no, it wouldn’t hurt for all of us to learn another language but when you imply that it should be mandatory, that’s when most people have a problem with it, including me.
Have a wonderful day in Seattle!
By Lefty
July 11, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
What Senator Obama said should not be offensive to anyone. Unless you consider having a well educated child offensive. And if that is the case, I have to question your patriotism.
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Trunk Monkey - now you’ve broached a valid point. I can respect people who bring up valid points to an argument instead of just resisting for the sake of resistance.
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Dawg - I hear you, I just think from the video, he didn’t say anything to warrant such an uproar. I’m a former Atlantan (which is why I lurk on ajc occasionally) and I tell you some of the attitudes just stink about anything new, different or progressive. Precisely why I picked up and left. Seattle isn’t perfect, but it’s a work in progress and you can SEE the progress.
And you have a wonderful day in Atlanta!
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
I agree to a point. Change is not something people like for the most part.
I truly do hope you have a wonderful day!! :)
DawgFan1
By Self Made Millionaire
July 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
THIS COMMENT WAS SO WELL PUT I HAD TO REPEAT IT…I think America is one of the only countries where its citizens don’t learn more than one language. It’s a global ecomony and we’re stuck in the stone ages. I know a lady from Africa who speaks 7 languages, a guy from France who’s fluent in 3, and a Spainard who’s learning his 4th. We Americans are deaf, dumb, & blind and destined to get stuck behind!!!!! Only nis JAW-JA … would the morons not realize that we are the ONLY country that only knows ONE language.* Well I suppose if you live in McDonalds, Old navy and walmart…and never travel …you dont realize how ignorant and behind America is compared to the world.*WHY DO YOU THINK THE DOLLAR IS SO WEAK??? WHY DO YOU THINK CHINA, INDIA, EUROPE IS DOING SO WELL? WAKE UP you racist Bigots. PLEASE.
By SaveOurRepublic
July 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Many good points here. It’s good to see fellow Americans standing for our own culture & language. We shouldn’t be “guilted” into learning the Spanish (or any other foreign) language. Emphasizing better understanding and usage of the proper English should come long before any secondary languages. Making foreign language mandatory isn’t the answer…whereas providing them as electives, etc. is fine (education wise). In the way of education, I think basic financial principles (from balancing a checkpoint, managing debt & onwards) should also be taught/stressed long before secondary language(s). Preparing ourselves for the Global(ist) economy is one thing (to an extent), but sacrificing American culture, traditions, jobs, language, borders and sovereignty is quite another!
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Speaking of knowing only one language, my neighbors only know one language and it isn’t english.
By RamblinLonghorn
July 11, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
By Jodi July 11, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Does Obama’s kids speak spanish??? I’m just sayin….Wow…just…wow.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Ouch!
By Clear Thinker
July 11, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Dear Self-Made Millionaire (right):
Enjoy a blast from the past—a likely (non-Spanish speaking) Obama supporter describing a crime she witnessed: http://boortz.com/mp3/archive/boogotshot_translation.mp3
By T
July 11, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Trunk Monkey
That is my point exactly. Why argue the fact about “No, why should I have to learn Spanish or any other language. You should just speak English.”
What people should be angry about is the injustice that is happening to American citizens. We spend our tax dollars to teach immigrants English and our own children do not get the same opportunity to learn multiple languages. Companies will hire someone and teach them a language free.
No one else sees a problem here?
By southerngirl
July 11, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
To Janet:
As I am one of the “ignorant” that graduated 1 hour outside of metro Atlanta in the beautiful North Georgia mountains… Not only do I know a second language, but I speak English quite well and even know how to conjugate verbs.
Do you know what the description “elitist snob” means….I believe if you look in the mirror, you’ll get a perfect view of one. I am well traveled, educated and love a variety of foods - and enjoy a multicultural environment in my daily life. However, I also treasure my roots and my upbringing. And I do love a good Barbeque sandwich. So why don’t you move to some other more cultured state that would appreciate your backward, ignorant and definitely prejudiced point of view.
By Oh jeez...
July 11, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Clear thinker… are you really? A Spaniard is someone of SPANISH origin. Genius.
Immigrants flood into America because of three things: freedom of religion and freedom of speech, and OPPORTUNITY. Duh. America practically THROWS money at LEGAL immigrants to start businesses and they live 12 to an apartment and EVERY family member WORKS their hands raw to make it.
And your link… has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Your attempt to throw off the fact that you know absolutely nothing about the topic failed miserably.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
I do. I can see your side of the argument now. Some might call that the “r” word…..immigrants learning English and our own children not being taught another language. Hmmmmm…..good point….
Where did you go Mike in Seattle?
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Oh jeez,
I think what Clear Thinker was trying to say is What is a Spainard? Not Spaniard? I believe he or she knows what a Spaniard is…..just guessing
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Sorry - went back into lurk mode. Still shaking my head at some of the comments… I think as more comments are made, folks are beginning to see learning a second language, no matter which it is, as a good thing and just because he said it doesn’t mean if he’s elected the language police are going to be monitoring us! Those first knee jerk reactions just got to me! I just wish people would admit the real reason they don’t like Obama instead of jumping on the “CNN Issue of the Day” and saying, “See? You can’t trust him!” I’m honestly still undecided about who to vote for, but I’m not going to blast the guy who didn’t say anything bad.
The ol’ inflammatory blogs of the AJC really drives up readership, huh?
By Why
July 11, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Yes, Spanish… on this continent the language of lawn care and inexpensive restaurants. I wonder if it’s dark where Obama keeps his head.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
AJC makes for some interesting reading material. I can see why you check it out once in a while. I personally only blog about the Dawgs (hence the name DawgFan1)but this kind of got under my skin, just a tincy wincy bit. I always vote Republican just because I vote my morals.
Just ask any Georgia fan what they think of Terrence Moore and see the response you get!!!
By Chingo Bling
July 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
you people have no idea what you are talking about. most of you sound ignorant and white
By Chingo Bling
July 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
you people have no idea what you are talking about. most of you sound ignorant and white
By GaDawg
July 11, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Being able to speak another language is fine but why not French, Chinese or Russian? Sorry, I forgot, France, China and Russia are not voting in November. To you Obama Fans, he can’t give Federal Jobs to ALL of you no matter what he has promised you better start looking out for yourself
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Oh nooo… I stepped my foot in that trap with a Dawg once before! Had to pony up $50 for beer that night! I’m a Stanford grad myself so living in the land of college football was an experience.
You sound like a guy I could have a beer with, Dawg. Enjoy your day there in Atlanta and maybe I’ll have to lurk in those sports blogs too!
By Clear Thinker
July 11, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
At least I know how to read. That puts me ahead of you. Chump.
Jeez.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Well by all means, enlighten us…..
By GaDawg
July 11, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
roger on that ” Live from Seattle ” nothing like having a beer with a Stanford grad, I might learn something
By Manny
July 11, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Once again, I think people are not getting the message. So let me assist.
Mexico is the only country that borders the US that isn’t primarily English-speaking. And Latinos are the largest minority in the US. And in probably 30 years, Latinos will be the majority of Americans and whites may become the #1 minority in the US. That’s just fact.
Mexico is a huge partner to the US in off-shore outsourcing. Mexico; being so logistically close to the US, and with the peso still being far behind the dollar, Mexico is becoming a premier destination for outsourced jobs. And even though English is the language of business, Spanish si close becoming a close second.
Another rapidly growing country that many companies look towards for Technology, Customer Service, and other white-collar support is the Philippines. And the Philippines is a Spanish-speaking country.
With China and India being both countries that yields over 1 billion people, most of their workers that deals with the general public are bilingual. So if you yell out in a crowd in most cities in those countries “Anyone Speak English?”, you’ll get someone pretty quick to assist you. But in Mexico? There are places where you’re just out of luck.
So you really should learn to speak at least Spanish. I’m learning it. I have to. And my kids are learning it, too.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Mike,
If you’re writing to me (DawgFan1), you need to know that I am a woman. However, unlike most, if not all, of my female friends, I KNOW my football!!! :)
Of course, the way I talk about the sport most people assume I am a man…..but trust me I am not.
By Ash
July 11, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
You all are hilarious! It’s clear that many of you are limited in your experiences and your travel. Americans go to other countries and don’t even attempt to learn something about the culture, the food or the language.
While I don’t think Spanish should take precedence (Chinese/Mandarin and French are equally useful since China is about to surpass the U.S. in global success and French is widely spoken in oil-rich African and Arab countries), I do think all American children should be required to learn at least one other langauge, preferably two.
We are officially in a global society. English is spoken in other countries, in addition to the native language. That means that all of those children will soon be beating out OUR kids for jobs in the next few years.
It’s just flat-out lazy not to make sure your kid speaks another language- you are setting them up for failure in the future because they will have to communicate with people in other countries in order to survive in our global economy.
Get over yourselves. Learn Spanish, learn French, learn Mandarin. Heck, learn Pig-latin! Don’t limit your experiences with other cultures simply because it’s something new!
By GimmeYoDolla
July 11, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Only in America is it considered absurd to learn a second language. Is he calling for us to do away with English as the standard US language? No. People get a grip
By Live From Seattle
July 11, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Well then dude-ette, I’d still buy you a beer!
Mike
By steve
July 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Am I to guess that all those that think it is a good idea also support shipping all the jobs overseas? Same for trying to understand some Pakistani when trying to deal with a business over the phone? Sounds like a great idea to teach every kid on a college prep curriculum even though they are not headed to college. Why not let people decide for themself? While Obama may be a lot better than Osama Bin Bush does the government need to meddle in everyday lives? I thought is was the parental responsibility to decide. Bush thinks it is a good idea to have NCLB and look at where that brilliant idea has sent us. Stop the generalized comments and start dealing in facts. Yes, I have 2 masters, speak 7 languages and see no reason for the government to tell me what is good for me. Stupids.
By Tray
July 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry, Manny, Hispanics are NOT the largest minority in America, blacks are. Yes, unless they want to remove themselves from a ‘minority’(which i think should have happened by now) label, they are the largest.
All Barack D’Ohbama is doing is trying to buy the mexican vote. I guess the ‘change’ he’s been talking about for so long is changing our primary language.
You know what’s funny…? AMERICA IS ONE OF THE LAST COUNTRIES NOT TO HAVE A LAW ABOUT AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE!
While i see the importance of learning multiple languages, Obama DOESN’T CARE EITHER WAY!! HE JUST WANTS THE VOTES!!
It’s a shame that our country puts more importance on having a ‘controversial president’ than one who actually knows how to run a country. Yeah, i said it, and I’ll say it again-THIS COUNTRY IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A FIRST ‘BLACK’ PRESIDENT THAN HAVING A ‘QUALIFIED’ PRESIDENT!!
The problem not only lies within the government, but also within the idiots who think “the first black…(whatever)” is more important than being able to actually do the job. And if Obama doesn’t win the presidency, affirmitive action should land him the spot, right? I mean, i had buddies who didn’t get the job because we had to have a race quota, even if those people couldn’t perform as well. I call it THE WUSSIFICATION OF AMERICA!!
By CBL
July 11, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
I absolutely refuse to learn Spanish to talk to Mexicans in my country. I will try to use Spanish whenever I travel to a Spanish-speaking country, but not here. Forget it, can’t make me learn it.
Now sod off.
By DawgFan1
July 11, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Well, thanks!!!
It was great chatting with you! Maybe I will see you around the sports blog sometime!
By Gabomi
July 11, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
I personally believe that those coming to the US from other countries should be required to learn Engish. At the same time I truly believe that we all should know more than one language. Myself, my 4 yr old and 20 month old both are learning to communicate in Spanish, French, Sign Language and Mandarin. So with that said, I think it is a good thing to know more than one language. Just my two cents!
By T
July 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Lol, still don’t get it.
Who really cares who the minority is? No one has addressed why we allow such gross missuse of our tax dollars.
Why argue the fact about “No, why should I have to learn Spanish or any other language. You should just speak English.”
What people should be angry about is the injustice that is happening to American citizens. We spend our tax dollars to teach immigrants English and our own children do not get the same opportunity to learn multiple languages. Companies will hire someone and teach immigrants a language free.
No one else sees a problem here?
By Steve
July 11, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Obama lovers - those who blindly follow his Mr. flip flop’s lead. He just sold out to telecoms and voted to pretect them from warrantless eavesdropping on private law abiding citizens of this country. Yes, hime thinking we should all speak Spanish is so trustworthy and poiticiany(?). I guess next he will be part Hispanic? Maybe he should try something like how is he going to deal with education? The economy? Off shore and ANWR drilling? Alternative energy? The falling dollar? Yes, speak Sapnish sounds like a cure all fix all. I just got back from California and they are ROTFLTAO because they went through this many years ago. Street signs in 7 languages, ballots in 13 languages, even ebonics. They have reverted and chose to let people follow their own path. And you know what? They are trying to deal with real problems. They are still laughing about the evolution and Cox fiasco. Following thru on my travels around the country - most of the US is laughing about this and THUGA, CRCT and algebra, praying for tain to fill the lakes, etc. Stop being sheep and try to think for yourself.
By Tray
July 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
I see the problem ‘T’, i see it big time. IT’S NOT THE GOVERNMENT’S RESPOSIBILITY TO BAIL YOU OUT OF TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU’RE TOO LAZY TO WORK!
Let’s raise everyone’s taxes to give money to the poor to help them in the housing crisis…How about, DON’T BUY A FREAKING HOUSE IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT!! The government is not Robin Hood!!
Oh, and I’m still waiting to see if whites gather up to march against Jesse Jackson for everything he’s ‘been caught’ saying, but it won’t happen. They know how to forgive and forget instead of holding 100+ year grudges…
By Clear Thinker
July 11, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Obama stated, incorrectly, that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan. The problem with his remedy is that Afghans don’t speak Arabic.
Meanwhile, John McCain has traveled to the U.K., Germany, France, Mexico, Columbia—oh, and Iraq.
Obama had planned a speech at Germany’s Brandenburg Gate.
But German Chairman Merkel’s spokesperson “noted that the Brandenburg Gate has become ‘a place with a particular exclusivity, intensity and symbolism’ in view of past speeches by sitting U.S. presidents and events such as a large rally in solidarity with the United States after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.”
“As a result, he said Merkel has voiced ‘great skepticism as to whether it is appropriate to bring an election campaign being fought not in Germany but in the United States to the Brandenburg Gate.’
Merkel’s spokesman “said that ‘no German (chancellor) candidate would think of using (Washington’s) National Mall or Red Square in Moscow for rallies, because it would be considered inappropriate.’
Because he is a crass, self-centered individual, Obama never considered the cultural sensitivity associated with speaking at the Brandenburg Gate. In spite of having several hundred million dollars in his campaign chest, he was unable to spend $2 on a phone call to contact Germany’s government to broach the subject with them for their approval. Another example of Obama’s flawed judgment for our European allies to see.
What we need is intelligence—not change.
By gwarfan
July 11, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
English is the international language of bussiness. Since when did they stop teaching foriegn languages in schools? It is part of a well rounded education. Spainish is a dying thing anyhow.
By BPJ
July 11, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
Please note that Obama said immigrants need to learn English.
It’s so funny to read these rants coming from people who voted twice for a President who mangles English so badly. (BTW, doesn’t he speak some Spanish?)
I strongly agree that we need to become better at learning other languages, and I’m glad to hear a presidential candidate speak up for that. I’m fluent in French, and I can handle a very basic conversation in Spanish and German, but compared to people I meet from other places, that’s not much. Some of my European friends are fluent in 5 or 6 languages.
And here’s the most important thing: learning another language enriches your life (& perhaps your wallet, too).
By ed from ga
July 11, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
“As I am one of the “ignorant” that graduated 1 hour outside of metro Atlanta in the beautiful North Georgia mountains… Not only do I know a second language, but I speak English quite well and even know how to conjugate verbs…
“I am well traveled, educated and love a variety of foods - and enjoy a multicultural environment in my daily life. However, I also treasure my roots and my upbringing. And I do love a good Barbeque sandwich.”
Hey southerngirl, I think I’m in love. How about a date?
By JeremiahWright
July 11, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Learning Spanish is nice, but anyone living here needs to learn English first.
By Ash
July 11, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
ClearThinker,
If you had accurately researched Obama, you would see that he lived in Indonesia for four years and grew up in Hawaii, where the majority of the population is of Asian decent. Any person worth their weight knows that you must live with other cultures in order to truly understand them.
That’s great that McCain is traveling to those places right now, but that doesn’t translate into a true understanding of other cultures. It just means he has a passport and a plane ticket.
In fact, people in other countries are hoping that we elect Obama to the White House- it shows that our actions are FINALLY reflecting our words. We are the land of opportunity. We are a diverse nation. Old white guys are not the only ones that can hold the highest office in the land.
Many see our international relationships blooming with the election of Obama. We’ll start dialog and have conversations that we’ve never had before.
By thad
July 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
the bottom line is americans shouldnt have to learn another language. however if you come into america you should learn to speak their language. obama is ridiculous. vote mccain!!!
By thad
July 11, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
the bottom line is americans shouldnt have to learn another language. however if you come into america you should learn to speak their language. obama is ridiculous. vote mccain!!!
By Pompano
July 11, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
I thought Ebonics was the official language of Atlanta???
By West Cobb Dad
July 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Should our kids learn a second language? Sure, why not? It opens the kids minds to other cultures which isn’t bad. BUT, they should NOT have to know a second language to order from a McDonald’s down the street. This is the U.S.A. the last time I looked. But if Hussein Obama has his way, we should be asking to join the EU.
By janet
July 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Clear thinker, Ed and RErservoirdawg, I never said you were ignorant. Please reread my remarks carefully. If you don’t agree that 1 hr out of Metro Atlanta there is a cultural divide then you may be well educated but failed in reading comprehension. I know exactly what the life expectancy, per capita income, and educational levels are in E. Africa. The point , which was missed, was even in countries as poor as E. Africa in villages without electricity and children without books, they are taught two languages. In this country of ours, the richest on the planet, at least for a while longer, we don’t want to pressure our kids or encourage them to stretch their potential because they have to work for their success. Sorry- I have a problem with our kids who get so much and their parents who expect it, but require nothing of themselves or their kids to achieve high expectations.
By the way, I am fluent in Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, French and hold a degree in English and in History. I have travelled to 74 countries and don’t care to move to China which has a history of human rights violations. I care enough about my country to look at it objectively and see its shortcomings and expect things to change and work for those changes. Because in today’s world it is adapt or die. And English is the official language of business and air traffic controllers, French of diplomacy. No where is bad English or poor grammar accepted as the norm as it is in this country. Just watch the news any night of the week and listen to the people who are interviewed. I am an elitist when it comes to the use of English. But since you live in the N. Georgia Mountains I am sure that you live in a lovely gated community so that you can be sure that everyone around you is just the same as you. Sorry that dog won’t hunt to use vernacular you might understand.
By Tommy
July 11, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
if I’ve read the history of our country correctly (lies and all), we weren’t required to learn the language of the Native Americans when we invaded this country and ended up stealing their land….of course, that’s this country’s method of operation…but- how many of your pathetic morons learned it?
By puh-lease!
July 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Not only did I think ebonics was the official language of Atlanta, but of the entire US. Also, maybe we should encourage kids and adults to learn the abbreviated lanugage used in text messaging. wat do u thnk bout dat?
By Larry
July 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
For those who don’t know much about geography. In Europe many know two or three languages because if you drive 400 miles you will go thru three seperate countries with their 3 seperate languages. In the USA only English is necessary because you can drive 2000 miles and people are still speaking English.
People here can learn a second language if they want to…though there is no real need to. My choices would be Chinese or Arabic. Any country with two major languages are always having problems…just look at Canada. There is always the opportunity to split based on languages.
Question….Does Obama know Spanish or is he just talking about having others do it?? What about his girls? And why Spanish in Chicago, you are 2000 miles from Mexico?
By Tommy
July 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
what should be required though, is that our president (i.e. george bush) be required to at least, AT LEAST speak proper english! Fat f*n’ chance of that…
By puh-lease!
July 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Not only did I think ebonics was the official language of Atlanta, but of the entire US. Also, maybe we should encourage kids and adults to learn the abbreviated lanugage used in text messaging. wat do u thnk bout dat?
By Manny
July 11, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
Tray
There are over 44 Million Hispanic citizens in the US. There are only 36 million blacks. Blacks haven’t been the largest minority since 2003.
By Whatever
July 11, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
WCD - just to clue you in… people are not scared of his middle name. Just lily white people with no way to separate different people from one another. But I’m sure you had another reason for elaborating that he had “Hussein” as a middle name. Are you still trying to connect him to Islam or Saddam?
Moron.
By sharon
July 11, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
You people are a bunch of ignorant rednecks that barely speak english yourselves. There is nothing wrong with speaking another language no matter what language it is. We live in a melting pot. People here speak french, german, spanish etc…only you backwoods racist think it’s wrong to learn another language…Well should we all speak hillbilly like most of you that have left comments? Isn’t that another language? Obama is going to be your next president and if you don’t like it then move to another country…and see how many of them speak english in order to you…none if they’re anything like you.
By Chuckie
July 11, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
I just saw that Cynthia McKinney’s choice for Green Party VP is not just a ‘hip-hop activist’, but has also worked as… wait for it… a community organizer!
Wow, another eminently qualified candidate for high office. Where do we find them all?
By sharon
July 11, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
You people are a bunch of ignorant rednecks that barely speak english yourselves. There is nothing wrong with speaking another language no matter what language it is. We live in a melting pot. People here speak french, german, spanish etc…only you backwoods racist think it’s wrong to learn another language…Well should we all speak hillbilly like most of you that have left comments? Isn’t that another language? Obama is going to be your next president and if you don’t like it then move to another country…and see how many of them speak english in order to you…none if they’re anything like you.
By Interested
July 11, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
With all the people coming into this country who speak Spanish, we should learn to speak their language so that we Americans can learn to communicate with them and that was Obama’s point.
By earlean brown
July 11, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
We live in a very competitive world, what’s wrong with preparing your child for the future? Not just speaking different languages, but becoming proficient in math and sciences. That’s why people from other countries come over and take everything from americans because we are lazy.
By Chelsea
July 11, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Wow, somebody named Chingo Bling called me ‘ignorant and white’… dare I say what I think of him?
By Clear Thinker
July 11, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
I care enough about my country to look at it objectively and see its shortcomings…
There is a difference between you and me. You look at America and see only the shortcomings (as you’ve stated).
I see freedom, religious plurality, free enterprise, strength, charity, resourcefulness, inventiveness—in short, a proud but not boastful people who have done many things for many people. Americans have freed more people and brought more hope to more individuals than any other civilization that has ever existed. We have freed most of the countries whose people speak the languages you claim to speak.
Somehow you equate the number of languages one speaks to his or her worth. In that, you and Obama have something in common. Conceit is a strange disease—it makes everyone sick but the one who has it.
In your study of history, you must have skipped Western Civilization. Perhaps you should acquire a primer on the subject. Or to use “my vernacular”, you should bone up on the subject.
It’s unfortunate that you feel you must talk down to people you have never met. You claim to have a degree in history but possess little understanding of it.
Good luck to you honey. And as we say in the South: “Bless your heart.”
By JohnnyReb
July 11, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
Sharon, why don’t you haul your sorry, carpetbaggin’ hide back to San Fransicko or Filthadelphia with the rest of your commie lib breathren! You pinko vermin are so sanctimonious & self-righteous. We Americans don’t need to embrace and second tier langauge or foreign culture. Unlike yer boy B.Hussein ObamaYOmama, us real care about America first, second & third! BTW, that Marxist YObama is gonna get whooped soundly come November by ol’ McCain!
By Scott
July 12, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
The anger I read here seems to stem from a dislike for the impact that immigration is having upon our country. I believe that everyone agrees that immigrants need to learn English. Without an effort to learn other languages, the United States will be at a disadvantage in gathering intelligence against terrorists or conducting business in other countries. It is beneficial to individuals and the country as a whole if residents are able to speak more than one language.
By George
July 13, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Most of Europe speaks English and French. Most of the Middle East speak the language of their country. Some speak English. China is now teaching their kids English because they want to be more like the west. So why doesn’t Obama think we should teach our kids to speak Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, or French. Why Spanish. He is catering the the Illegal Mexican just like everyone else. I wonder what the immigrants from other countries think about us bending over so far to accomodate the Hispanic, but expect the rest of them to conform to the “American Way”?
By gsmith
July 16, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
We don’t want to learn spanish or French or German. This is the United States of America and we speak English. If people want to be apart of this country, learn English. I’m tired of pressing “1” for English. Where have we failed? The average American has not failed, but our elected Washington officals have failed us miserably. We shall not forget come election time.
By Jeff Hardy
July 26, 2008 2:58 AM | Link to this
The angriness I read here seems to stem from a disfavor for the impact that immigrates is having upon our country. Most of Europe speaking English and French. Most of the Middle East speaking the language of their country. China is presently teaching their children English because they want to be more like the west.
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By Jeff Hardy
July 26, 2008 2:59 AM | Link to this
The angriness I read here seems to stem from a disfavor for the impact that immigrates is having upon our country. Most of Europe speaking English and French. Most of the Middle East speaking the language of their country. China is presently teaching their children English because they want to be more like the west.
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By Jeff Hardy
July 26, 2008 2:59 AM | Link to this
The angriness I read here seems to stem from a disfavor for the impact that immigrates is having upon our country. Most of Europe speaking English and French. Most of the Middle East speaking the language of their country. China is presently teaching their children English because they want to be more like the west.
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By L1M89
July 26, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
[‘The angriness I read here seems to stem from a disfavor for the impact that immigrates is having upon our country.’]
What “anti-Immigrant angriness” have you read here? Go back to a Reading 1A Class & this time pay attention to the teachers lesson plan. Substantiate your claim of Anti-Immigrant bias by anyone who has posted anything in the Borderline that’s “Anti-Immigrant.”
Pro-Illegal Alien Moonbats constantly misrepresent those who oppose the invasion of Illegal Aliens as being “anti-Immigrant. Immigrants are here legally & are welcome, however the part that Moonbats consistently get wrong is, invading hordes of Illegal Aliens are here Illegally.
Illegal Aliens are here illegally, that’s why they’re referred to as Illegal Aliens. Immigrants have entered our USA legally & welcome because they’ve honored our nations sovereignty. It’s common knowledge that Leftist Moonbats can’t ever differentiate between right & wrong but, this time, try to learn to discern the differences between Immigrants & Illegal Aliens & get it right the next time.
By L1M89
July 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
“HateSpeak” & “HateCrimes” are multicultural & multilingual. Racism is racing both ways down a one-way street.
“Kill all white people”
Link - http://current.com/items/88921913killallwhitepeople …………………………………………………………
Here’s an oldie:
“Statements by Jose Angel Gutierrez, San Antonio Evening News, April 11, 1969” Official Statements and FAQs - 26 April 2006 San Antonio Evening News
[‘MAYO LEADER WARNS OF VIOLENCE, RIOTING Statement made by Mexican Youth Organization: (MAYO) April 10, 1969 “MAYO has found that both federal and religious programs aimed at social change do not meet the needs of the Mexicanos of this state. Further we find that the vicious cultural genocide being inflicted upon La Raza by gringos and their institutions not only severely damage our human dignity but also make it impossible for La Raza to develop its right of self-determination. For these reasons, top priority is given to identifying and exposing the gringo. We also promote the social welfare of Mexicanos through education designed to enlarge the capabilities of indigenous leaders. We hope to secure our human and civil rights to eliminate bigotry and racism’]
(cut to end of story)Statements by Jose Angel Gutierrez, San Antonio Evening News, April 11, 1969 Official Statements and FAQs - 26 April 2006 San Antonio Evening News April 11, 1969 Reporter Kemper Diehl MAYO LEADER WARNS OF VIOLENCE, RIOTING Statement made by Mexican Youth Organization: (MAYO) April 10, 1969 “MAYO has found that both federal and religious programs aimed at social change do not meet the needs of the Mexicanos of this state. Further we find that the vicious cultural genocide being inflicted upon La Raza by gringos and their institutions not only severely damage our human dignity but also make it impossible for La Raza to develop its right of self-determination. For these reasons, top priority is given to identifying and exposing the gringo. We also promote the social welfare of Mexicanos through education designed to enlarge the capabilities of indigenous leaders. We hope to secure our human and civil rights to eliminate bigotry and racism’]
(cut to end of story)
Reporter: If worse comes to worst, will you kill gringos? Gutierrez: If worse comes to worst, and we have to resort to that means, it would be self defense.
Reporter: Do you hate gringos? Gutierrez: Yes I do.
Reporter: Is there a time limit as to when it might be determined that worst had come to worst? Gutierrez: Well, I can only make a personal decision. If the attacks on my person and my property continue as they have been doing then it will only be a matter of a few years. Last year part of my property in Crystal City was burned. Two months ago my home was burned in Crystal City. In 1963 I was kidnapped and coerced, or attempted to be coerced, by gringo elements. In the whole attempt to create an organization and movement, I have been abused and misused by a lot of people. If this continues, within a few years I will no longer try to work with anybody.
Reporter: Why have 500,000 Mexican nationals immigrated to the U.S. in the last 15 years despite the charges of the misery and degradation they faced? Gutierrez: Maybe they don’t know any better. You will find about an equal number going back. Reporter: Who might be called the “white hats“; and “black hats” in your view? Gutierrez: In gringos, there is nobody wearing white hats. They are all a bunch of animals. Anglos who have open minds and a genuine interest in resolving the conflict and ills of the community will receive cooperation from MAYO. All they have to do is declare themselves.’]
More - http://www.uta.edu/public-affairs/official-statements/ stories.php?id=2133
By L1M89
July 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
An Angel update:
“Memo From Mexico, By Allan Wall Who Is Jose Angel Gutierrez-And What Does He Want?”
[‘Jose Angel Gutierrez, [email him] political science professor and former head of the Mexican-American Studies Center at the University of Texas, Arlington, is a busy man. Gutierrez was recently in Mexico City at the invitation of the Mexican government to participate in the binational Reconquista jamboree reported in my last column. The very next day (April 30th, 2004), he was in Kansas City speaking at something called the “Latino Civil Rights Summit”
There he boasted that: “We are the future of America. Unlike any prior generation, we now have the critical mass. We’re going to Latinize this country.” In a puff piece on the conference, Lewis W. Diuguid of the Kansas City Star reported that
“Gutierrez said people from Mexico, Central and South America are not immigrating to the United States. They are simply migrating because this land had been theirs…Hispanics should never put up with others telling them to go back where they came from” [Hispanics will help build future of U.S., April 18th, 2004‘]
(snip)
[‘”The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we’re a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot-we will not-and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It’s a matter of time. The explosion is in our population.”’]
(snip)
[‘Who is Jose Angel Gutierrez ? He’s technically an American citizen, born in Crystal City, Texas in 1944-an example of the great National Question truth that, just because the cat has kittens in the oven, that doesn’t make them biscuits.
He is activist and lawyer, has served as county judge in Texas, and is an author who has penned such classics as A Chicano Manual On How To Handle Gringos. Since his youth, he has been active in the Chicano movement, and was one of the founders of MAYO, the Mexican American Youth Organization.
Texas Democratic Congressman Henry B. Gonzalez made some interesting comments about MAYO, entered in the Congressional Record, April 3rd, 1969: “MAYO styles itself the embodiment of good and the Anglo-American as the incarnation of evil. That is not merely ridiculous, it is drawing fire from the deepest wellsprings of hate. The San Antonio leader of MAYO, Jose Angel Gutierrez, may think himself something of a hero, but he is, in fact, only a benighted soul if he believes that in the espousal of hatred he will find love. He is simply deluded if he believes that the wearing of fatigues … makes his followers revolutionaries … One cannot fan the flames of bigotry one moment and expect them to disappear the next.”
(Nativist and Racist Movements in the U.S. and their Aftermath, Yale-New Haven Teachers Institute, Henry A. Rhodes)
Back then, Gutierrez said “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him.”
Later, Gutierrez told The San Antonio Express and News (April 11th, 1969) that the term “Gringo” referred to a bigoted and racist individual or institution. And &“kill” just meant the elimination of the political, economic and social foundation of “the Gringo.” Oh, well-that’s OK then!
Bottom line - Gutierrez wants gringos out of Texas.’]
More - http://www.vdare.com/awall/gutierrez.htm